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Frost responds…

…to my request with a letter from RPCC Executive Director Steve Backiel and a check for $100.

Ah, thanks for the check, but…

I think if you re-read my communication with the Chairman, you’ll see that I did not resign.

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18 Responses to “Frost responds…”

  1. Wendell - what you need to do (as if I have to tell you, but just in case), is ask them back: does issuance of the check, then, equal a yes answer re: Rob Frost will work and collect compensation for three jobs, since you wrote in the prior post:

    “Finally, I’d like to ask that if you decide to continue working three jobs and receiving compensation for each, that you consider refunding my $100 Executive Committee dues.”

    You know - one of those if…then…statements - even if you used a “that” ;)

    This is all really good first year law stuff. Don’t deposit that check until you’re satisfied that you understand what doing so will mean. Then, you can always check with Jerid who just finished his first year of law. We’re so eager after that first year!

  2. “Finally, I’d like to ask that if you decide to continue working three jobs and receiving compensation for each, that you consider refunding my $100 Executive Committee dues.”

    You asked.
    They considered.
    You were issued a check.

  3. The question at hand is to whether a request for a refund (and subsequent issuance) constitutes a resignation on my part.
    It certainly was not my intention, and when I read the letter today, I considered that my request (and their expeditious willingness to fulfill it) might allow them to construe it as such, but I know Rob’s brighter than that so…
    I would assume that he’s being his usually less than forthright self expecting that I cash the check and thus seal their intent.
    The other piece of this puzzle includes the final line of the paragraph in question:
    “Normally I would be happy to pay my fair share, but since I cannot trust you to do yours I think it’s only right that I (and anybody else who’s required to pay) get a refund.”
    Does this mean that my fellow Executive Committee members are also receiving $100 checks in the mail?
    I have no intention of cashing the check because the note section of the check indicates “Refund - Resignation from Executive Committee”, and as I said before I did not offer my resignation.
    Hmmm, perhaps I should seek legal counsel. I heard the firm of Huffman Issac and Frost do a lot of work.

  4. Joe Amschlinger on May 9th, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    RPCC Bylaws Section 4, Paragraph (A)(8): “Membership on the Executive Committee for all persons, including those members occasioned by paragraphs “1” through “5” above shall be conditioned upon the annual payment of dues of one hundred dollars ($100).”

    Hence, if Wendell hasn’t paid his dues (or wants a refund), that’s an effective resignation.

  5. Not to be picky Joe, but I paid the dues. Nowhere in your recitation does it indicate that a decision on the the part of the party to refund the payment affect a resignation on my part.

  6. www.merriam-webster.com’s definition of a “refund” is to return (money)in restitution, repayment. If the money, which you paid, is returned, then you’re treated as having never paid.

    this is funny on two counts. a) you asked for a refund, and got it. now that you’re no longer a paid member of the executive committee, youre puzzled why you cant be on it. b) in a previous blog post you wrote, “By the way this also means that I will have to surrender my useless membership in the county party’s Executive Committee because I will not pay its dues.” which by the way, implicitly recognizes that to be a member in good standing you have to be paid in full (and why would you want to be a member of a useless committee anyways?).

  7. Good point Greg, but Webster’s also defines refund as “a balancing of accounts”. The account that I want balanced is not my membership on the committee, but the lack of honesty provided by the chair.
    As for the committee’s uselessness… touche, I cannot argue your logic.

  8. Joe Amschlinger on May 9th, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    What had you really wanted to accomplish with this Wendell? I do not agree with you that Rob silences dissenting voices (I can appreciate that I do not have the same experiences as you) and I beleive he actually listens to dissent. It may not be with the immediacey that the dissenter wants, but Rob is the captain of the ship and his decisions are on him and reflect on his tenure. Expecting a leader to do what the followers want negates his/her leadership mantle. This is Rob’s party to steer now and people do need to accept that, or vote in another chairmen. If the dissenters do not have the votes to do that then fight the battle another day and push this party forward. We have a lot more in common with each other than we do with the Dem leadership. Picking a battle with Rob over taking a BOE seat really seems counterproductive to me. For the party and for active party members like Wendell. We can not all be the chief. If we all sit around taking shots at the chief, and not doing our part, then we will never move this party forward.

  9. On your innuendo that the rest of us are not “bright enough” to understand your brilliant thought process and use of the English language in your letter: Let’s see what you get out of this little communiqué..

    From the top:

    You didn’t want to be a member of the Executive Committee;
    then – miraculously – you pay the dues and become a member;
    only to put up an ultimatum requesting a refund of the dues;
    then refuse to cash the refund check for the dues, as you wish to remain on the Executive Committee…

    …which you refer to as “useless”.

    Whatever.

  10. Weazel-The perceived slight about innuendo is yours and yours alone, As for the rest… You make a good point, but I disagree.

  11. My my W, this is so entertaining to me. Hopefully, it will convince you to get out of the whole politico cultish world and apply your talents elsewhere.

    “Look at the tyranny of party–at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty–a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes–and which turns voters into chattles, slaves, rabbits, and all the while their masters, and they themselves are shouting rubbish about liberty, independence, freedom of opinion, freedom of speech, honestly unconscious of the fantastic contradiction; and forgetting or ignoring that their fathers and the churches shouted the same blasphemies a generation earlier when they were closing their doors against the hunted slave, beating his handful of humane defenders with Bible texts and billies, and pocketing the insults and licking the shoes of his Southern master.”
    - “The Character of Man,” Mark Twain’s Autobiography

  12. You know what J you may just be right…

  13. Wendell, I’ve been observing your situation with the RPCC Executive Committee from afar, and it’s a shame that things are ending like this.

    Keep up the good fight.

  14. Thanks Vike!

  15. Wendell,

    It sounds like you are crying over spilled milk! Asking for a refund and expecting to remain on the Executive Committee is about as silly as running against Jimmy Dimora.

    I rarely agree with the party sheep, their inability to have their own thought process and thier need to check the “I’m a Party Hack Manual” to formulate responses, but you asked for a refund and got it. As for their other babble, that is only to be expected from party line hacks. Amschlinger might even get an elephant pin for his response.

    Personally, I am upset Rob refunded the whole $100. I feel your refund should have been prorated from the time you paid your yearly Executive Committee dues.

    I do disagree that the Executive Committee is useless. As you know, in its’ concept the Executive Committee serves a very important role in our local party. It is the people who serve on the committee that make it useless.

    While I feel the Executive Committee is only one of the many committees full of many useless & ineffective people, why do you all of a sudden feel this way?

  16. […] Last week I received a check from the Republican Party of Cuyahoga County literally cashiering me out of the party’s Executive Committee. The check came in response to a request I made of the party’s Chair Rob Frost that he reconsider his chairman’s compensation package in light of the fact that he lied about his commitment to work as a full-time chair and instead now has three very time consuming jobs (Party Chairman, practicing attorney and member of the County Board of Elections). I suggested that should he decide not to reconsider that I (along with my fellow committee members) should get a refund of our dues. The answer came in the form of that check and a letter indicating that the party had accepted my resignation from its Executive Committee. […]

  17. […] …I’m neither shocked nor surprised by the insanity brewing at the Cuyahoga County Republican Party. In a largely Democratic county, their main goal should be to recruit and support highly motivated, smart, and capable leaders to make inroads into the Democratic core wherever possible. They should also make damn sure they hold on to the seats they have. So, what does the party do over the last year? They let Ed Herman run one of the worst campaigns in local history and get punk’d by suburban mom and political rookie Jennifer Brady. In the process, the GOP surrenders control of a reliable House seat in a moderate/conservative corner of the county. Then, last week, they decide former County Commissioner nominee Wendell Robinson needs to shut his mouth. They take him out Soprano’s style and bump him from the County Executive Committee. […]

  18. Wendell does need to shut his mouth. His campaign made Ed Herman look Presidential. I wanted to comment on the statements made as to Wendell’s activism. Are you referring to his only appearance at the phone banks Downtown where he made 8 calls on a Super Saturday where Ken Blackwell came to speak? Or are you referring to his absence from every major County event during his hard fought campaign? Wait a minute You are right!! There are useless members of the Executive Committee after all.

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